I note the badge is called win-win. And while many of the examples we've talked about have been a victory for both sides, there was also the question claiming more of the pie. >> Yes. >> Is that something that's part of your program? >> Yes, so we teach win-lose and also lose-lose. >> Okay. >> We're hoping you get a win-win, but we talk about what happens if there is a win- lose? >> Great. >> So the girls would give examples of what they think a win-lose outcome could be. And this could be, I mean if you're talking to a seven-year-old or eight-year-old it could be, I'm on the playground with some friends, I want to do an activity. And other girls want to do something else but you need a certain amount of players to play this sport. >> Sure. >> If you do what you wanna do and you need all the players and there's one girl, or a few who didn't get a chance to participate, that's a win-lose because you got what you wanted and the other people are sitting there. So we do cover those and we also cover, are you really happy with that outcome and what happens? And, some of the girls are like, yeah, because I got to do what I want. But, if this is a long term relationship, how could that affect that? Well, those girls might no longer want to hang out with me, okay? >> So, that's great, I want to push you slightly in a different direction cuz you're bringing me back to win-win in the long run. >> Yes, yes, in the long run. >> One issue might be for some young women that they are too quick to give up their potential share of the pie. >> Oh, yes, yes, yes. So, we come at activities in saying that, okay, you don't have to. What are your goals in focusing on, what do you want out of it, right? And to not back down, be assertive and challenge the person that you're negotiating with. And it's good, if you set those guidelines and you really want this, you don't have to pull back and say, well, its not fair. Its not fair to you if you're always accommodating the other person. And, then it shortens your ability to be successful. So we encourage girls definitely to attain their goals and to be assertive for what they want. Because a lot of times some of the girls who are interested in some of these robotics programming, what ends up happening is that they're at a table and they let some of their peers dominate. And then they don't want to be on the losing end of the spectrum. So we don't want them to necessarily always be, okay, well, you have to be happy and I had to be happy all the time, because that's not always the case. So you also do scenarios such as you think about, okay, if you're buying a house, you really want to make sure you get the best deal that you have for yourself. >> You have seven-year-olds buying houses? That's impressive. >> Not buying houses, but buying objects for, maybe their school fair. >> Okay. >> So one of the cases that we've created was a fair scenario, book sales. And a young person didn't have, was trying to negotiate to get more out of the deal. >> Sure. >> But there were certain limitations and if you became flexible with those limitations you end up on the losing end of it. So it was a challenge for the girls who worked through that one because well, I don't want her or him mad at me. But if you lose sight of what your goals are, you might not reach them. So we- >> And you might be mad at yourself, ultimately. >> Yeah, yeah.